Div 4e CIGC vs 7x

[Darkstar987]

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Hello... yesterday cigc played vs 7x...

the lineups were:

cigc)jounsn vs 7x-agg

cigc)darkstar vs 7x-zeratul

now here is the problem. we played zvz, i won the first game so it was 1-0... in the second game he disced after 2 minutes, and i waited for regame...

now after ~15 minutes one of the other players said i had to accept that they change their player. i played vs daejjong who won 2-1 vs me... this is what i expected as my zvp is going really bad right now.

is this legal? a friend of mine told me they cant just change the player.

i was being mannered and wanted to give zeratul a regame, but he didnt show up.



note: first i didnt accept the player change but i searched the rules here and couldnt find it, so i just believed them

its not allowed to change a player after one game.

[Darkstar987]

so i want the win vs their first player, 7x-zeratul

i was in the lead and even waited for 15 minutes for a possible regame!

it was this weeks war, so admins if you could give us that win? (i have the replay of the first game)

I think only the rep will not help.Maybe you neeed some Screens. because Admins cant do anything when they have not enough evidence.

[Benrath]

plz clarify the case..

did they switch the player and u started of at 0-0 again or did he continue to play?

first of u all u dont have to accept a player change but if u do thats legal..so it seems since u played the games u kinda accepted.

if u started of at 0-0 that would be bizzare but still if u have accepted it, its more ur fault..

usally it goes like having accepted to play u lose the right to complain.

we will discuss this so thtas just a short wrap up by me

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[7x-Justice]

Hello all.

We played manner CW yesterday. So this topic and complaint is a surprise for us. =(

First, your team had only 2 players, so we started play owful minimode. Rules, ok.

Second, you didn't made draw on site.

Third, you losed your games. And now you start to dodge and cry. Be manner person and don't be a child, Darkstar.

We make change, becouse our player had problems with connection (he disced in second game). We waited him, but he didn't come. CIGC)Darkstar accepted to play with other our player (7x-DaeJJonG). They started with score 0:1. And they played two games. Our player won both games, score was 2:1. So I reported win on draw.

I don't see problem here. This player losed and now he want to revenge. =)

If you have any questions, admins, ask please. But I think, that now all is clear here.

[Tür]

darkstar,
did they ask you or did they say you have to accept the other player?

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[Darkstar987]

I know you were very mannered but since i dont know the rules perfectly as im not even the leader (which is not here for some months) i was planning the thing tonight.

and yes we only got 2 members and played mini.

the first player i fought lagged, so they changed the player at 0-0

then i played the "second" game vs zeratul, won 1-0 and then zeratul disced in the 2nd game ... they said that i have to accept it when they change their player once again.. i first waited for zeratul to come but he didnt
i mean they didnt force me but i trusted them that this is normal, i couldnt know that im gonna play a whole other player with other race/style and whatsoever... i mean you cant give me a lose for not knowing the rules perfectly, im not leader of our clan anyways

im sorry for this complaint 7x, but it seems very wierd to me...


and if you think i want to steal your win, give me the second (and third) match vs zeratul, i will play vs him

i couldnt know that im gonna play a whole other player with other race/style

what did you think?!

since they didnt force you, they didnt do anything forbidden...
and that you dont know the rules, is not their fault.

but it would help us, if you could say what they exactly told you.

[Darkstar987]

This sounds very faky i know... but i just played the first game and i thought that they would make a complain if i wont play daejjong


problem was that they told me it would be normal to change the player if someone discs... they just said they will change their player, didnt ask me for agreement... that was the moment when i went to the news page, but i couldnt find anything in 5 minutes so i just trusted them...

i mean i wouldnt be that mad if i would lose this one, but regaming vs zeratul seems much fairer to me, because i didnt see any rule to this case anywhere on the site


if you make it a lose for me, then pls change the rules, cause somethign like this sucks

[RanzigeMilch]

wow
sry for posting in this thread but after reading this i searched for the disconnect rules and couldnt find anything abot player change either.
If im to stupid to find sorry, but if not this should be written into the rules, that the other player has to accept..

[Benrath]

he doesnt have to accept , thats what we are saying all a long but there is neither a real that forbids player chaning if a disconect occurs..

in this case it doesnt sound like CIGC was forced to accept the player change and i dont see why we should punish 7x for a lack of rule knowledge from CIGC.

in addition it is allways nice to accept a player change if lag problems occure even though u dont have to do so..


in my opinion CICC has either to show us that x7 tried to screw them in changing their player or the result stays at it is.


just take it as a lesson not to trust an opposing clan when he tells u sth which goes in their benefit.

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[Darkstar987]

i dont want 7x to be punished, i want the game to be replayed or atleast the rules to be made clear!